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vokouder r2.0 beta3 - GPU at 20% ( beta2 95/98%)

  • quorro
  • April 4, 2019 at 9:00 PM
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  • quorro
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    • April 4, 2019 at 9:00 PM
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    Hello,

    i don't know if this is a bug or because this version is free but Vokouder r2 beta3 is extremely slow compared to previous beta1 and beta2.

    previous version can export a 6 minute video timeline with grading and PP in under 1.30 minutes.

    settings used in both Vokouder r2 b2 and b3

    with vokouder r2.0 beta3 the same video with the exact same settings require about 8 minute to export and the gpu utilization is 20% compared to 95/98% from the beta2.

    g=15 gpu=0 preset=slow profile=high qp=1 rc=constqp

    mp3 320 mkv

    Premiere pro v 13.1.3

    rtx 2080ti 419.67

    AMD Threadripper 2990wx

    128GB DR4 3600

    Windows 10 ( without april update ).

  • Vouk
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    • April 4, 2019 at 9:14 PM
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    Voukoder ignored the "Render with maximum bit depth" option before beta3. If activated now it uses a very expensive render path. If you uncheck it you should have the old speed again.

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  • poo
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    • April 4, 2019 at 9:41 PM
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    Quote from Vouk

    Render with maximum bit depth

    I wont see this as an option in beta3.

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    • April 4, 2019 at 9:47 PM
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  • quorro
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    • April 4, 2019 at 9:48 PM
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    Quote from Vouk

    Voukoder ignored the "Render with maximum bit depth" option before beta3. If activated now it uses a very expensive render path. If you uncheck it you should have the old speed again.

    Hello Mr. Vouk .:).

    thank you very much..now is lightning fast but give me this error :(...

    it's italian . hope you can understand what this error says.

    the export disk is a nvme m.2 ssd mp500.

    Thank you so much for this tool :).

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    • April 4, 2019 at 9:53 PM
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    Sorry, i can not speak italian. But you can press ctrl-c in this windows and copy the text and maybe translate it with deepl.com.

    Please open voukoder again and copy the logfile to this forum.

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  • poo
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    • April 4, 2019 at 10:13 PM
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    Thank you.

  • quorro
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    • April 4, 2019 at 11:58 PM
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    Sorry, i can not speak italian. But you can press ctrl-c in this windows and copy the text and maybe translate it with deepl.com.

    Please open voukoder again and copy the logfile to this forum.

    Ok, Mr Vouk.
    Error

    Errore durante la compilazione del filmato.

    Errore di esportazione

    Il modulo di esportazione ha restituito un risultato non valido.

    Scrittura con modulo di esportazione: Voukoder R2

    Scrittura su file: C:\Progetto ( TimeLine ).mkv

    Vicino al codice di tempo: 00:01:45:08 - 00:01:45:14

    Componente: Voukoder R2 di tipo Modulo di esportazione

    Selettore: 9

    Codice di errore: -2147483648



    here is the log from Vokouder preference tab

    vokouderr2_beta3_log.txt

  • Vouk
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    • April 5, 2019 at 9:28 AM
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    I just checked the premiere sdk documentation.

    It was wrong to use the "Use max. render quality" option for that. I will revert that change.

    Instead I will activate the outUseMaximumRenderPrecision setting.

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  • quorro
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    • April 5, 2019 at 12:32 PM
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    I just checked the premiere sdk documentation.

    It was wrong to use the "Use max. render quality" option for that. I will revert that change.

    Instead I will activate the outUseMaximumRenderPrecision setting.

    Thank you Mr Vouk,

    i'm not a developer but think that the critical aspect of developing a program is the possibility to find strange errors and i'm really happy to have discovered this for you :).

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    • April 5, 2019 at 1:03 PM
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    Yes, you are right. That's what the beta test is for! :)

    Grazie mille.

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  • Vouk April 6, 2019 at 7:34 AM

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    • April 12, 2019 at 5:10 PM
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    I have tested the speed differences between Voukoder 1.2.0 and Voukoder R2 (beta3 and beta4). And I can say that Voukoder R2 is very slow compared to Voukoder 1.2.0 with nvenc. I exported a 50 min video with the same nvenc settings in Voukoder 1.2.0 and Voukoder R2. In version 1.2.0 it takes about 5 minutes, in Voukoder R2 (beta3 and beta4) it takes about 9 minutes. I attached two screenshots from the taskmanager which shows that version 1.2.0 uses more Video engine power I think.

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    • April 12, 2019 at 5:24 PM
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    Make sure you use the same settings in both cases. Don't compare the settings in the gui, but the settings in the logfile.

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  • Kleinrotti
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    • April 12, 2019 at 5:34 PM
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    1.2.0 settings = h264_nvenc with options: b=2000000,bf=2,maxrate=3000000,preset=slow,profile=high,rc=vbr,refs=3

    R2 settings = vcodec: h264_nvenc, voptions: _computeCapability=6.1,_pixelFormat=yuv420p,b=2000000,gpu=0,maxrate=3000000,preset=slow,profile=high,rc=vbr, acodec: libfdk_aac, aoptions: _sampleFormat=s16,profile=aac_low,vbr=3, format: mp4, faststart: 0

    And I noticed that Voukoder R2 log is flooded with this:

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    Calling dl_fn->cuda_dl->cuCtxPopCurrent(&dummy)
                                           
     [2019-04-12T17:31:22] Calling dl_fn->cuda_dl->cuCtxPushCurrent(ctx->cu_context)
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    • April 12, 2019 at 6:30 PM
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    I compared the two files from version 1.2.0 and r2 and I can say that the quality of version r2 is a little bit better in rainy scenes than 1.2.0 but really hard to see . So there has to be some difference in the settings but for this loss of speed?

    There is also a wrong default value in voukoder r2 with nvenc h264 I noticed. In the GUI ref frames have a default value of 3 but the exported video has 1 ref frame.

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    • April 13, 2019 at 10:42 AM
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    I just compared the encoding speed of version 1 and 2. And it is pretty much identical.

    Maybe you are comparing a release build and a debug build? Debug is always slower because performance optimizations are disabled there.

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  • Kleinrotti
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    • April 13, 2019 at 11:38 AM
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    Both are release builds downloaded from github releases.

    Some strange think is also why R2 is using less video engine power but more video copy.

    You are using a RTX card right Vouk ? Maybe its only affecting Gtx cards because of a new nvenc version or something?

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    • April 13, 2019 at 11:46 AM
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    It might have to to with libav logging a bit. When I disable the logging and have my own logging instead it looks like this:

    My logging looks like this:

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    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51212: Render: 6 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1677 µs - Total: 1685 µs (593 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51213: Render: 7 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1592 µs - Total: 1601 µs (624 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51214: Render: 4 µs, Process: 1 µs, Encoding: 1679 µs - Total: 1684 µs (593 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51215: Render: 6 µs, Process: 1 µs, Encoding: 2169 µs - Total: 2176 µs (459 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51216: Render: 6 µs, Process: 1 µs, Encoding: 1903 µs - Total: 1910 µs (523 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51217: Render: 8 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1788 µs - Total: 1798 µs (556 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51218: Render: 178 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1654 µs - Total: 1834 µs (545 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51219: Render: 6 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1642 µs - Total: 1650 µs (606 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51220: Render: 17 µs, Process: 6 µs, Encoding: 2002 µs - Total: 2025 µs (493 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51221: Render: 5 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1859 µs - Total: 1866 µs (535 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51222: Render: 8 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1734 µs - Total: 1744 µs (573 fps)
    [2019-04-13T11:43:24] Frame #51223: Render: 8 µs, Process: 2 µs, Encoding: 1885 µs - Total: 1895 µs (527 fps)
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    The fps are actually misleading. It were "only" like 430 fps actually.

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    # GPU Session    Process   Codec       H       V Average     Average
    # Idx      Id         Id    Type     Res     Res     FPS Latency(us)
        0      38       6840   H.264    2048    1152     421        2275
        0      38       6840   H.264    2048    1152     430        2308
        0      38       6840   H.264    2048    1152     425        2329
        0      38       6840   H.264    2048    1152     425        2332
        0      38       6840   H.264    2048    1152     427        2322
        0      38       6840   H.264    2048    1152     435        2278

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  • Kleinrotti
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    • April 13, 2019 at 12:05 PM
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    The R2 logfile looks also pretty strange. I think the log is not complete and missing entries.

    Here is are my fps values with 1.2.0 and R2 beta4. Hugh difference. And I attached the R2 log.

    I am pretty sure that I am using the same video export settings but also by changing some parameters, R2 is every time much slower.

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  • quorro
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    • April 13, 2019 at 9:17 PM
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    Hi All,

    Hi Mr. Vouk,

    i've tested the new r2 b4 and i'm soo sorry for the following

    the plugin seems to extremely slow "even wothout high quality checked". Seems to have capped at 20% and seems that ignores every settings combinations :(.

    In task manager i see about 20% of Hardware encode utillizatin. the export works well but the benefit of GPU hardware accelerations completely disappear.

    i have the latest premiere pro "adobe cloud subscription" and a 2080 ti with 425.31 "gaming" drivers.

    Hope i'm wrong but i think that Nvidia is the responsable for this...

    if i can help you . please tell me how.

    ( the export was cancelled by me :) ).


    voukoder.org/attachment/325/

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