Beiträge von Joe24

    sorry, I dont understand.

    Relax. I'm just agreeing with you, and providing a video showing the crash happening. Yes, Voukoder connectors cause Vegas Pro 12 to crash.

    I wonder if it's a glitch in how templates are being reported to Vegas by Voukoder.... because this issue happens while Vegas is trying to populate the Render As list.

    (This forum is currently refusing to upload files, which is a separate issue.)

    I'm using 8-bit.


    This forum won't allow me to upload a screen capture of the crash. Tried uploading in GIF format (3.4 MB) and ZIP format (4.7 MB). Neither works, although the stated upload limit is 20 MB, and both file formats are listed as supported. Hmm . . .

    (Webpage error: The file size exceeds the PHP limit "upload_max_filesize" and/or "post_max_size".)


    EDIT: see screen capture posted below in Post #15.

    I haven't used my copy of Vegas 12 for about a year and a half (July 2022), judging by the log files. It got to be a hassle changing the connector back and forth (uninstall/reinstall) between 12 and 15 every time.

    But I know it did work with Voukoder at one point, and I'm pretty sure it was working last time I used it a year and a half ago. Tried the Voukoder/connector versions from that time period, though, and no joy.

    Maybe something changed with Windows folder permissions etc? It's odd that no connector versions seem to work with Vegas Pro 12.

    In "About Vegas Pro" -> "Components", voukoderplug.dll is listed. So the connector appears to be properly installed.

    I did do a fresh install on a different computer, and behavior is identical.

    Did some testing here, and there does seem to be an issue with Vegas Pro 12 (and possibly 13, judging by other recent threads). I only have Vegas Pro 12, 15, and 20 installed.

    Vegas Pro versions 15 and 20 seem to work fine.

    When Voukoder connector is installed in Vegas Pro 12 (I tried connector versions back to 0.7.2 from 2020, along with Voukoder versions back to 5.0), hitting the Render As button in Vegas brings up the Render As menu, which displays a "Loading Templates . . . " message for a few seconds, and then Vegas crashes to Windows desktop.

    Changing Voukoder versions makes no difference, and changing connector versions makes no difference. If any Voukoder connector is installed to Vegas Pro 12, Vegas crashes when clicking Render As. If you uninstall the connector, Vegas then functions normally (don't need to uninstall Voukoder itself).

    I don't really want to wipe all my settings and cache from Vegas, if I can avoid it. If somebody else wants to try on their system, hold Ctrl+Shift while double-clicking the Vegas icon on your Windows desktop.

    Not sure which log file to pull. There seem to be several of them. The only file in the %localappdata%\Sony\Vegas Pro 12.0\ folder containing the phrase "voukoder" is the file FFCache_x64_1033.ini , which isn't super helpful:

    Technically, a 1-sec GOP would be encoder Level 4.1, but changing encoder levels didn't make a difference to the results above.

    I've never had great luck with TMPGEnc Authoring Works accepting video which uses encoder Level 4.1. They say it's Blu-ray compatible, but I never found how to make it work. AW always flags the 4.1 tracks as incompatible with Blu-ray, by reason of encoder level. So I just use encoder Level 4.0, which works fine. TMPGEnc Authoring Works accepts either 1-sec or 2-sec GOPs with Level 4.0 (which should be 2-sec GOP only, according to spec).

    Lol, and as mentioned . . . TECHNICALLY, 1080p29.97 is non-compliant with Blu-ray anyway.

    In any case, all test files above were rendered using Voukoder, and therefore FFmpeg. And they all used NVENC on an Ampere card. None of my tests yielded a file with an extra leading I-frame, so this is quite clearly neither an FFmpeg issue, nor an NVENC issue.

    can be produced directly using FFMEG

    If you are getting this problem even while using command-line FFmpeg, then we can also rule out Voukoder and its connector as the cause.

    If the error occurs in command-line FFmpeg across multiple framerates and encoders (you've mentioned both NVENC and x264), then there must be a problem with your encoding settings, or maybe even with your source file's encoding from Premiere.

    Out of curiosity, what are your Voukoder encode settings? And what exact command-line are you using for your FFmpeg encode?

    1) create BluRay complaint 1080p stream, with "1 sec" GOP (30 frame) for std 29.97 video.

    2) bring up SmartRender, add the clip, then in the "Format" panel click "Start Analysis". Notice it wants to render the first 2 sec. Now output the file and it creates a 61 frame GOP out of the original 3 GOPs (1, 30, 30).

    3) This re-rendered file is now not BluRay compliant.

    [...]

    if you bring up a Vouk or FFMpeg NVENC clip in SmartRender, enable "show frame status", you'll see the solitary I frame followed by the regular GOPs ... and a blank audio frame.


    I don't observe any frame-order problems with video files rendered by Vegas 20 using Voukoder/VoPro. Following the steps quoted above (except using GOP 60, which is actually the Blu-ray max for 29.97p video, and my preferred setting), the first few frames of the video are as follows, starting with frame 0: IBPBP.

    Switching to your setting of GOP 30, Smart Renderer now wants to re-encode most of the video file for whatever reason (see screenshot). But the frames still remain in the correct order (IBPBP), with no extra I-frame. I assume you have a reason for rendering as GOP 30, so I'm not going to address that.

    Tested some 1080p23.976 GOP 48 renders, and they cause no problems either.

    I suspect, as stated before, that your problem may lie with Premiere or your settings therein. AFAIK, FFmpeg just encodes whatever frames it's fed.

    See screenshots below. TMPGEnc Smart Renderer 6 doesn't complain about the video stream at all using GOP 60.

    These files were encoded using Vegas Pro 20 build 411, Voukoder 13.3, connector 1.7.1, NVENC h.264. I modified a preset I normally use for Blu-ray encoding, just changing frame rate and GOP size. Normally I run 1080p23.976 GOP 48 which is fully Blu-ray-compatible.


    GOP 60:


    GOP 30: