Posts by ogt

    OK,

    For Premiere under W7, I recently installed Premiere CS6 to Get Encore CS6, it is why I have

    Current version = C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS6\MediaCore

    and not

    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\7.0\MediaCore


    But for AfterEffets you are wrong, you must take in the registry the entry :

    CommonPluginInstallPath, witch lead to

    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\7.0\MediaCore\

    That is the correct entry, used by all other plugins.


    olivier

    Warning :

    The default directories proposed by the installer are not correct.

    On my machine with multiple systems and multiple versions of Premiere and AfterEffects:

    Under W7, the installer voukoder offers

    - for Premiere: C: \ Program Files \ Adobe \ Common \ Plug-ins \ CS6 \ MediaCore
    - for AfterEffects: C \ Program Files \ Adobe \ Adobe After Effects CC 2018 \ Support Files \ Plug-ins



    Under W10, the voukoder installer offers

    - for Premiere: C: \ Program Files \ Adobe \ Common \ Plug-ins \ 7.0 \ MediaCore
    - for AfterEffects: C: \ Program Files \ Adobe \ Adobe After Effects CC 2019 \ Support Files \ Plug-ins



    While it would have been necessary for all CC applications to choose the common directory:

    C: \ Program Files \ Adobe \ Common \ Plug-ins \ 7.0 \ MediaCore
    and possibly if CS6 versions are also present on the machine, the directory:
    C: \ Program Files \ Adobe \ Common \ Plug-ins \ CS6 \ MediaCore

    (I have all versions CS6 to CC2019 installed)

    Not bad, but it will eventually ask to move these plugins in the right directories.


    Olivier

    On your side, what is the interest of having developed this specific plugin AfterEffects, while it is possible to export via MediaEncoder?

    The only plus of the direct export of AfterEffects is the taking into account of the Alpha layer.

    But it's already possible in some MediaEncoder formats.



    Olivier

    Good, update of the AEX plugin with the Poc2 version:

    Export of a series of clips, total 5 mn 02, in AVCHD 50p, without effects.

    - Export via Premiere, MediaEncoder and voukoder 2.08

    in Nvidia HEVC VBR 12-15000: duration 2 mn 09

    - Export via AfterEffects direct, voukoder Poc2

    in Nvidia HEVC VBR 12-15000: duration 10 mn 13

    Under A.E the graphics processor remains very underutilized

    This is not yet a usable version.



    As I say previously :


    I do not understand too much the interest of this native plugin for AfterEffects, because it is already currently possible to use MediaEncoder with the plugin voukoder for Premiere, and it is the solution of the future because the direct export in AfterEffects is brought to disappear in the short term.


    Olivier
    Good evening,

    I do not understand too much the interest of this native plugin for AfterEffects, because it is already currently possible to use MediaEncoder with the plugin voukoder for Premiere, and it is the solution of the future because the direct export in AfterEffects is brought to disappear in the short term.

    So do not spend too much energy to develop it, it will be used very little.

    MediaEncoder is the common export tool for Premiere and AfterEffects, and it works very well with voukoder.

    Olivier

    Thank you for your return.

    In recent times I modified many times the voukoder plugin version in Premiere, to see the compatible minimum version of the Nvidia drivers.

    This should be indicated somewhere (release notes).

    I thought I had re-installed the latest version for this test, but obviously this is not the case.

    Previously, the availability of an update was indicated directly in Premiere, so I did not pay attention.


    Olivier

    I work with H264 and AC3 exported in MP4 container, within Premiere, since CS5 version (with Minnetonka pluging for AC3), after with standard AC3 support from Adobe for AC3 up to CC2017.

    (AC3 removed in CC2018)


    If this will no longer be provided by voukoder, i will not use this plugin in the future, as my multimedia reader (TVIX), as many others, does not accept MKV.


    Olivier

    I aggree with this requirement :

    All settings must be recorder from session to session.

    It is very annoying to have to ré-enter settings each time.

    This is not the case with standard settings in Premiere, all are retained from session to session


    Olivier

    I think I found the cause of the problem:

    it's not Voukoder at all that puts the fuss in the order of the audio channels, but another Rovi Totalcode plugin, which I re-activated to accept clips with audio in AC3.

    Indeed, I had already used this plugin in CS5-CS7 versions, while Premiere did not support Dolby Digital.

    Then I had abandoned it in the more recent versions since Premiere included as standard the support of the AC3.

    In version CC2018, Adobe has removed this support (under the pretext that it is standard in Windows 10), but working on Windows 7, so I re-activated this plugin, but it has been developed for CS6, where channel order was different, it is no longer suitable for CC2018 and inverts some audio channels.

    So that's the explanation of the difference in the order of the channels in AAC and AC3.

    Fortunately Premiere allows to modify this order on each clip (Modify: audio channels). I just have to check if we can do it on a set of clips in one hand.

    I'm sorry to have blamed the Voukoder plugin, but the cause of the problem was not easy to highlight.

    Thanks again


    Olivier

    As I say in an other thread, there is a problem with channel assigment of audio 5.1, not the same between AAC and AC3 output.

    After a lot of tests, I have understand the problem :

    Adobe change the 5.1 channel assignment during import and on time line since version CC2014.

    It was L, R, Ls, Rs, C, LFE, in versions CS6, CS7

    It is nows L, R, C, LFE, Ls, Rs in newer versions


    With voukoder :

    Export/Import in AAC format conforms to these spécifications

    Export/import in AC3 only conforms to CS6 spécifications, it is wrong in later releases.

    I have make a clip with music only on suround channels, and audio recorded on front channels

    Images attached shows the layout in source monitor (same as timeline)


    Please check this (with the other clip provided in zip) and

    as voukoder is now the best way to export to AC 5.1, thanks in advance to provide a correction.


    Thank Olivier

    Voucoder_AC3.txtVoucoder_AAC.txtI revert bak to 1.1.3, but I think there are other problems in Audio encoding in 5.1 :

    - With AC3 : some séquences are not encoded correctly, spécialy one with loud or Noisy sounds (I.E River fall noise vanish several time in output, not in original clips)

    - With AAC : order of channels are not the same as AC3 and not compliant with Premiere

    AC3 Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
    AAC Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE

    See output Mediaifo attached.