Beiträge von rsmith02

I tested renders with MagixAVC against Voukoder (x264) in VP 19. I noticed that in the resulting Voukoder render there was no flag in MediaInfo such as:

Color range : Limited

I assume 8-bit Voukoder mp4 AVC renders are limited. MagixAVC is and states it in the metadata.

I noticed this when testing settings in Vegas in the render dialog as you can choose limited (default) or full range. It was unclear if Voukoder takes that into account or if it has any effect on the render (does not appear to). Not having any metadata on color range made it hard to confirm, though.

I'm not sure why you'd do a HDR view transform for a project that will be rendered as SDR but the audio side looks good.

Do you care how big the file is? What's the source?

The 444 10 bit audio project default preset also has blown out whites here (VP 20 with the new connector).

With that test image the result from the general Voukoder 8-bit 4:2:0 template looked okay. Saturations are a bit different between the Voukoder renders than the original but perhaps that's because they are clamped to Rec 709 upon output?

With MPC black and the 10-bit 4:4:4 the superwhites and blacks are lost. The 10-bit file also doesn't look right bringing it back into Vegas.

I then went into the custom preset and just took the 8-bit 420 template and changed it to 10-bit 444 while keeping everything else the same. This version looks fine in MPC and Vegas, and the same as the 8-bit 420 one. So something is wrong with the Voukoder template? I did both UHD and 1080p and they look the same for both render templates.

Second version settings:

General

Complete name : C:\Users\Roger\Desktop\UHD 10bit 444 third time.mp4

Format : MPEG-4

Format profile : Base Media

Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)

File size : 360 KiB

Duration : 5 s 5 ms

Overall bit rate : 590 kb/s

Writing application : Voukoder (VEGAS)

Video

ID : 1

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High 4:4:4 Predictive@L5.1

Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC : Yes

Format settings, Reference fra : 4 frames

Codec ID : avc1

Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding

Duration : 5 s 5 ms

Bit rate : 587 kb/s

Width : 3 840 pixels

Height : 2 160 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate mode : Constant

Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

Chroma subsampling : 4:4:4

Bit depth : 10 bits

Scan type : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.003

Stream size : 359 KiB (100%)

Writing library : x264 core 164

Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.77:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=8 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=11 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=480 / keyint_min=3 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=110 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=24 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=3:0.80

Codec configuration box : avcC

Not working settings:

General

Complete name : C:\Users\Roger\Desktop\Voukoder 10 bit 444.mov

Format : MPEG-4

Format profile : QuickTime

Codec ID : qt 0000.02 (qt )

File size : 518 KiB

Duration : 5 s 5 ms

Overall bit rate : 849 kb/s

Writing application : Lavf59.16.100

Video

ID : 1

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High 4:4:4 Predictive@L5.1

Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC : Yes

Format settings, Reference fra : 4 frames

Codec ID : avc1

Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding

Duration : 5 s 5 ms

Bit rate : 846 kb/s

Width : 3 840 pixels

Height : 2 160 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate mode : Constant

Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

Chroma subsampling : 4:4:4

Bit depth : 10 bits

Scan type : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.004

Stream size : 517 KiB (100%)

Writing library : x264 core 164

Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.77:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=8 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=11 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=480 / keyint_min=3 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=110 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=24 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=3:0.90

Codec configuration box : avcC

Thank you, I did. There are numerous other issues affecting VSTs but this is the only one I found that causes issues with Voukoder so I thought I'd mention it here, too.

Great question. I only used this plugin as there is a bug with the VST engine and the Fx I normally use!

Anyway, just loaded VP 19.643 and applied the same TDR NOVA Fx to the same file. The Voukoder render completed without issue.

I am not sure this is a Voukoder issue rather than a Vegas one but with VP 20 my 64-bit VST 2 TDR Nova Fx works fine until you go to render. I am using 11.3.2 with a manually pasted connector.

It crashes with an x264 or NVENC preset with Voukoder instantly. It works fine with MagixAVC (Mainconcept or NVENC) in Vegas.

Voukoder otherwise worse as expected in Vegas.

VP 20 has only been out for a day so it's not so late.

For % of the GPU used, just looking at one figure is almost useless. Click on the GPU and see decoding, 3D, CUDA and encoding and watch what it does during a NVENC render.

What do you mean by doesn't support? Try the current Studio Driver. Other 3080s work, I'd be surprised if the Ti version doesn't.

Here's a render benchmark sheet comparing different GPUs. Bunch of 30XX cards on the list.

Strange I have the current connector working with 19.458 (and every other build of 19).

I see YouTube recommends

Zitat

High Profile 2 consecutive B frames Closed GOP. GOP of half the frame rate.

Recommended upload encoding settings - YouTube Help

In VP 19, media rendered with Voukoder x.264 is now flagged with a warning that it is not an efficient format for editing. I contacted Vegas staff about why this is happening and they reviewed the output and determined it was the very long GOPs. This warning was intended for highly compressed Zoom files.

For editing they recommended GOP length no greater than 1-2 seconds of footage (so GOP of say 30) whereas general purpose recommended, maximum useful cost possible, etc. are setting it to maximum lengths of 300, 480, etc.

I suggest reducing the GOP length of presets for x264 renders to facilitate further editing as some of us are using the output again in future projects.

Also, CRF for the general purpose recommended is also maybe higher than necessary? Default is 23 but it's at 17 which might better suit a high-quality preset.

Strange. It clearly sees your GPU. I did it with the exact same settings on my 1050 and it worked.

In case media is an issue (Vegas is failing to send frames to Voukoder), could you try with just generated media or a picture or a benchmark project?

Thanks for clarifying that!

What other project settings? Voukoder ignores Vegas project settings.

Just set the render settings you want (I made a generic one with the encoder/quality I want and then a second that adds a filter to downscale to HD for when I want to do that in Voukoder).

You are using Vegas? Can't you save it as a custom template with your desired settings?

Hi Fedosiki, that doesn't sound like you used QSV (1:3 is slow). What settings did you use?

Your processor appears to have Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics which I'm not really familiar with. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us…o-4-20-ghz.html

Audio is working here with 9.2 and X-AVC media with x.264 export.