Zitat von Couleur

One thing you could do is release versions early for your Patreons

I have had this idea a couple of years ago too. But it didn't work out to get more patreons that way. Basically just because the pre-releases still had bugs and required testing. So people thought "Okay, I have to pay and then I get untested stuff which I can't use?" Plus, the more people testing these versions, the more feedback I get.

Zitat von Joe24

So it's not viable for VP to use the x264/x265 libraries ONLY if they are present in the FFmpeg build? (Which would only happen if the user has chosen to download and compile their own version of FFmpeg, manually enabling these encoders.)

That'd be a way yes. FFmpeg as LGPL will be located as DLLs in the VoukoderPro app directory. But who would be able to do so?

You have to choose the pixel format in the encoder settings, i.e.:

For x264 you can try this to set the all-intra mode:

With NVENC h264 it should be this:

It is not about FFmpeg. FFmpeg can be built as LGPL - no problems. It is about x264 and x265. This (L)GPL topic is quite complex. You might read more about this on the FFmpeg or x264 and x265 website.

Thank you all for participating and sharing your opinions and suggestions in this topic.

Zitat von Howard Vigorita

Why not solicit financial support from the commercial NLE companies who are benefiting financially from the added value your Pro plugin might add to their platforms?

Companies are currently behaving completely different in supporting me and Voukoder. My contact to the VEGAS Pro Team is actually quite good, and I even get free licenses for every new version of VEGAS Pro. Talking with Adobe is good, they did reply to my questions and were helpful in the past. And BlackMagic DaVinci Resolve ... they didn't even reply to my questions in their forums. So asking them for money is not an option in my opinion.

Zitat von Kleinrotti

Maybe a payment plan for companies which have more than a specific amount of employees?

Zitat von kalamazandy

I'm not a huge fan of the idea of costs based on total employees of a company, or even total revenue, because that creates huge limitations for people who work at a large place who's primary business isn't related to the software they are doing.

I feel the same. I'd rather like something simple and clear. And not all companies would like to share their revenues and other company details. And even if they do - How am I supposed to verify that information?

Zitat von rsmith02

I think paying to unlock full features is reasonable

Right, I think this would be the best solution.

So my current idea on this is:

• VoukoderPro "unregistered"
  • About the same features that you have with the current Voukoder
  • I still want private/home/small content creators to be able to simply encoder their videos for free
  • No water mark, time limit, frame limit or such crap
  • You can try the full version for like 14 or 30 days (not sure yet)
• VoukoderPro "registered"
  • Full Feature set and all the exciting new stuff (I have so many ideas)
• Voukoder
  • As it currently is
  • No further development as soon as VoukoderPro gets released

I'd like to give users flexible options like:

• Subscription model
  • Monthly low price (You'll always get the latest version with all features)
  • Software stops working if you cancel your subscription
• Fixed price (classic model)
  • Classic one time payment
  • Just for one major version number (Updates for this major version number are included)
  • Release cycle will be one year
  • This software version continues to work for youeven if there are new versions

Making VoukoderPro (partly) commercial would also have some significant implications:

• Licensing
  • I need a monetization provider
    • Accepting payments worldwide
  • I'd have to add license verification logic
    • Maybe there are LaaS provider platforms like Steam for Apps, Windows Store, etc?
• It can't be GPL / OpenSource anymore
  • FFmpeg needs to be compiled as separate LGPL libraries
  • GPL parts like x264, x265 can't be included
    • Or I have to buy a commercial license for both (Quite expensive - I've heard about min. 10k EUR for x264 alone)
    • Or somehow work with x264.exe in a separate process
• Old financing stuff
  • Website ads will be removed
  • Patreon will be removed
  • The registered app will not contain any asking for payments
  • I might keep one-time payment services like PayPal or ko-fi for people want to show their appreciation for the free version
• FFmpeg
  • If this works out I'd even like to donate a share to the FFmpeg guys (and other free projects I'm using). Without their amazing work Voukoder and VoukoderPro wouldn't be possible.

All the above are my current thoughts. Final decisions might be different.

What encoder exactly? Currently there are four h264 encoders in Voukoder.

Is there a visual difference if you compare the files exported with crf=1 and crf=51?

Normally you can get this by setting the "key frame interval" to 1. In FFmpeg this is the "g" parameter. The name might vary with different encoders.

This is a screenshot of the actual running and already working program.

Hm... I'm not aware of making any changes regarding this issue and I guess this is rather a setting in DVRS.

ProRes AW and ProRes KS are different ProRes encoders. The two characters are the initials of their developers. They are both not certified by Apple. In my opinion KS is more advanced and thus marked as "Recommended".

Your NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER (and newer GPUs) does not support encoding interlaced videos. Either deinterlace the video or use a software h264 encoder.

I'll update it as soon as FFmpeg 6.0 is getting released.

Voukoder 12.2

Make sure you are using the latest connector for your application(s). For using NVENC (SDK 12) encoders driver version 522.25 or later is required.

Fixes / Changes

• Encoders
• libx265: Presets updated (iAvoe)

AMD AMFh264, hevc: Set a proper default value for constant quantizer (22)av1: Set a proper default value for constant quantizer (110)

Credits

Thanks to my all supporters by either Ko-fi, PayPal, Patreon or BTC (33wJ6Jg3KbZA4ZMJMQBFMh7jxWFAnad1Lp). Also thanks alot to the translators. Special thanks to AMD for providing support with testing.

Top Patrons

Gronkh, Todd Scarbrough, Schauerland, Michael wooldridge, Chris Woods

Seems like 12.2 has issues with the encoders. I removed it from the website again. Please uninstall and install 12.1. Should be working fine.

When I posted the "Take a look into the future of voukoder" tweet on twitter yesterday a voukoder user asked me "Is the 'Pro' part implying pay2use?". To make it clear:

• No, I don't want everyone have to pay to use the app
• I also don't want to provide a limited feature set that makes it impossible to export anything without paying a fee to get you the functionality you need to export a simple video.

But currently there are 56000 active users/month using voukoder and we have exactly 16 supporters on patreon (Big shoutout to you, guys!!), but unfortuantely that's not enough for a living.

So there is the question: Is there a better, proper and fair way to finance all of this? I might not be able to have a regular day job and do all the voukoder work in my spare time / weekends / holidays in the future. I'd like to hand this question over to you - the voukoder users: Do you have a realistic idea or suggestion on how this could be financed?

Edit: I'll watch this thread for a while and collect ideas and opinions before posting a reply.

The successor app will have a completely new concept and will be very flexible. Multiple tracks in, multiple tracks out. Just think about what might be possible with this.

... and please participate here: https://www.voukoder.org/forum/thread/1155

Can you post a voukoder log file?

The encoder (GPU or CPU) can only encode as fast as the host software is generating frames.

Yes, the sample rate has to be chosen in VEGAS Pro / the NLE.

(I could add a resampling filter but I'm not sure if it makes that much sense.)

Zitat von Invix

Is it possible to use it in Adobe Media Encoder? If so, how? As I've seen nothing about it on the installation guide.

I just added this information.

Zitat von Invix

And second question. Is Vokouder really faster/Better then just H.265 using Adobe Media Encoder?

Yes.

Most modern codecs require a frame size where

• Width is dividable by 8
• Height is dividable by 4

So a resolution of

[01:58:11] Frame size:      2560x1067

might be the issue.